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UndercoverCracker on April 21, 2010 at 18:29

@chry200875 So you only beleive in what you can see or explain. How very pathetic. Faith is something not many people these days can believe in. Youre the puppet if you only have that closed of a mind.

chry200875 on April 21, 2010 at 19:08

@UndercoverCracker poor dummy, if you believe in an invisible man, you are slave. because anyone
can use you like a puppet. ( in god we trust, semper fi, god bless america....)

UndercoverCracker on April 21, 2010 at 20:03

@chry200875 Im no slave and Im not very religious but anyone with common sense wouldnt think how you do....

UndercoverCracker on April 21, 2010 at 20:08

@chry200875 Bitch tit.

chry200875 on April 21, 2010 at 20:13

@UndercoverCracker Litle dude slave

chry200875 on April 21, 2010 at 20:18

@UndercoverCracker ...you like to be a slave ?...you suck !

UndercoverCracker on April 21, 2010 at 20:28

@chry200875 Weirdo..lol

UndercoverCracker on April 21, 2010 at 20:28

@mynick79 What about Islam??! People have been killing people ever since we became humans.....Humans have and will kill each other for many reasons, you cant say its becasue of religion or just one religion. Christians believe in freedom so thats just a stupid comment....Many even believe in science because God created us and we created science therefore......

chry200875 on April 21, 2010 at 20:47

Religion = Control = Slavery

GreatGrumbledook on April 21, 2010 at 21:28

thats what Platos instinct experienced the greatest enemy of art which Europe has produced up to this point. Plato versus Homer: thats the entire, the true antagonism on one side, the beyond of the best will, the great slanderer of life; on the other side, lifes unintentional worshipper, the golden nature.

GreatGrumbledook on April 21, 2010 at 21:56

of the ascetic ideal unavoidably also involves an appraisal of the value of science; while theres still time people should to keep their eyes open for that, their ears alert! (As for art let me offer a preliminary remark, for Ill be coming back to it at some point or other at greater length the very art in which the lie sanctifies itself and the will to deceive has good conscience on its side is much more fundamentally opposed to the ascetic ideal than is science:

GreatGrumbledook on April 21, 2010 at 22:34

since it denies what is exoteric in it. These two things, science and the ascetic ideal they really stand on a single foundation Ive just clarified the point namely, on the same overvaluing of the truth (or more correctly, on the same faith in the inestimable value of the truth, which is beyond criticism). In that very claim they are necessarily allies so that, if someone is going to fight against them, he can only fight them together and place them both in question. An appraisal of the value

GreatGrumbledook on April 21, 2010 at 23:16

Its relationship to the ascetic ideal is still not inherently antagonistic at all. Its even more that case that, for the most part, it represents the forward-driving force in the inner development of this ideal. Its resistance and struggle, when we inspect more closely, are not concerned in any way with the ideal itself, but only with its external trappings, clothing, masquerade, its temporary hardening, petrifaction, dogma. Science makes the life in this ideal free again, ...

GreatGrumbledook on April 21, 2010 at 23:16

And if this movie should pose some attempt to present science as a detractor of religion (especially the Christian one) I have to invoke Nietzsche about the inner alliance between the Ascetic Ideal and science:

GreatGrumbledook on April 21, 2010 at 23:17

Though I have hoped for a movie like Dune by David Lynch by Monsieur Amenábar but though the scenery was amazing and the costumes fitting still the characters and the story failed; not to mention the poor dialogues: The reference to the laws of Euclid was so ridiculous (read what Shakespeare made out of references to Pompey or Alexander the Great and Caesar and his commentaries); the actors do not convince as people from late antiquity but as modern folk. ...

KnightoftheCross1 on April 21, 2010 at 23:36

What do u mean the 10 commandments forbid only killing of a jew?? Thou shall not kill is for all ppls...

KnightoftheCross1 on April 21, 2010 at 23:49

Just by claiming ppl r true christians doesn't mean they r true christians. its not easy to be true christian. I know a couple, an arab guy slit their daughter's throat after dating her, they just forgave him, they visit him in prison, give him food & they love him. For me those r true christians. Its not what u claim its what u do. just because bad ppl used religion for their own gain doesn't mean religion is wrong, ex: a knife is used for kitchen but bad ppl kill with it.

smallGatsby on April 22, 2010 at 0:36

in which countries has the film be supressed? I'm asking out of curiosity.
But as a matter of fact: i can't find the film in an y UK cinema either.

smallGatsby on April 22, 2010 at 1:31

well, there are so many people who claim to be true Christian (or true followers of any other faith or ideology). Any faith/ideology which claims to provide salvation for its true followers is always at risk at leading people to commit the most horrible crimes in the name of the true faith.
The 10 commandments btw only forbid the killing of a fellow Jew (or fellow believer), that is why the OT knows so many "crimes" punishable by death & so many wars. Coz killing isnt ruled out per se!

KnightoftheCross1 on April 22, 2010 at 2:00

This film is great, i saw it twice already its brilliant & sad at the same time, i even was one of the extras in it cos it was filmed in Malta. Sad how Hypatia died, damned witchcraft accusations from ppl claim to be holy.

KnightoftheCross1 on April 22, 2010 at 2:14

Its not Christianity to blame for the wrong doing of crooked Christians. 1st of all Popes & bishops that command slaughter on ppl r NOT true Christians, even the same Christians that kill & break the 10 commandements especially for gain aren't true Christians. True christians never approve this pagan slaughter, the crusades, the inquisition etc. Many ppl throughout history claimed to be religious & righteous & twisted the word of God from holy to evil for gain of power & wealth.

TheTechnomage on April 22, 2010 at 3:04

Will we see this in cinemas in Australia? Or has the Catholic church suppressed it here too?

TheTechnomage on April 22, 2010 at 3:09

Looks absolutely brilliant. A pity it says so much about the times we currently live in.

GreatGrumbledook on April 22, 2010 at 3:58

@sleepingspider: Well, if you like what I have quoted you should read Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon as I did found these words in his books.

sleepingspider on April 22, 2010 at 4:00

A sad film but show how religion kills so many because someone reads some thing they way the words do what they want them to do....still that was many years ago but still not a lot has change now God has got more names and he is with them well thats what they tell everyone so after all that we are still not moved on. . . .

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